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Discussion in 'Loss of Spouse' started by Gary166, Oct 5, 2021.

  1. DEB321

    DEB321 Well-Known Member

    Robin,

    I hate eating alone too... Most of the time, I can't even sit at the kitchen table. It's just makes me cry, seeing Bob's empty chair. I "talked" about this in a much early message, guessing it was either late spring or sometime in the summer. I said in that earlier message, that the microwave has become my new best friend, and the TV my new dining companion. Before Bob died, I only watched TV at night. We would either watch a series that we were both into, or find a movie. Now I can't stand the silence, I miss the conversations we used to have over long, leisurely meals. I usually take my dinner into the living room, and tune into something mindless while I'm eating.

    It's only very recently that I began making myself dinner, and even now there are many nights that I don't have the desire or energy to cook. I'll zap a frozen meal or some soup in the microwave, and instead of making a fresh salad, will open a bagged one and put it into a bowl, usually all I can handle. However, on the nights I actually make myself dinner, I will chop up fresh veggies, buy some sort of lettuce, baby spinach or even arugula (when it's hard to find anything else that's fresh) and make a "real" salad. Even though I eat way too many frozen meals, I buy the healthiest vegetarian ones I can find. If I want chicken, fish, etc., I'll make it myself. I think the only reason I started cooking again is because for the very first time in my life, I went so long without eating chicken and fish, that it got to the point where I felt like I was craving these foods. It sounds so absurd, I never would have ever thought, I would have a craving for chicken or fish, TU!!!

    Thank you so much for the smiles... I love!!! hearing that Teddy is doing so well!!! My dog always managed to get some of her stitches out too, even if the stitches were in places that were very difficult for her to reach. She was a very creative girl, TU!!!

    I had and still have a very difficult time going into stores too, and just like you, especially the ones that Bob and I used to go to together. Bob liked to go shopping with me, about the only exception was during football season. Then he would kick back in his recliner, our dog trying her best to fit on his lap, or cuddle up, squashed is more like it, next to him in his recliner. Although she weighed 90 lbs, and was a very big girl, she thought she was a lap dog. I still miss her so much...

    I still cry when I'm shopping. I never know what's going to trigger those tears. Today, I stopped at the grocery store on my way home from the car place, and there was a really "cheesy" song playing. I hate that piped in music!!! I don't even remember what it was, but when I heard it, I started crying. I always have lots of tissues with me wherever I go. I live in a heavily populated area, and do most of my grocery shopping at a really big store, so I only run into people I know once and awhile. I always try to keep the conversation to a minimum. However, a couple weeks ago, I was putting a container of yogurt in my cart, when I heard a voice behind me saying, "do I know you from somewhere?" I turned around to find someone who I used to see when I was walking. I would stop and talk to him every once in awhile until the day I told him that Bob passed away. He tried to hit on me. He asked me to go to the gym with him, and to bring a swimsuit, so we could talk in the hot tub and have some drinks afterwards. I won't repeat what I said, but I was way beyond furious, TU!!! Back to the dairy case, as soon as I turned around, he apologized for asking me out. He said he knows it was a very insensitive thing to do. I accepted his apology, even though it made my blood boil, and left that dairy case ASAP, TU!!! He made my skin crawl. I hope I never see him again, end of story!!!

    Thanks for the advice. I'm really frazzled now, but in the morning, I'm going to try rebooting it. I'm so over the top technically challenged, TU!!! If I'm missing for awhile, just know that I"ll miss you and all of TGW so much... I think I should be okay though, rebooting is one thing I can usually handle. Hope I didn't just jinx myself!!!

    I hope your daughter was able to finish all of her errand and you had something for dinner too.

    I hope you're able to sleep tonight... I take melatonin at night. It helps me fall asleep, but I still wake up many times, not always able to go back to sleep.

    As always, sending you and Teddy lots of hugs, wishing you peace, all of us peace. DEB
     
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  2. DEB321

    DEB321 Well-Known Member

    Gary,

    As always, you have such a wonderful way of being able to express your thoughts and feelings. I love what you said, "the greatest energy filed by far is TGW o GIC." I totally agree with you!!! I feel so fortunate to have found this site, to have been able to make some truly wonderful friends. I wish so much all of us could get togethe in person, TU!!! I love how you said that George is TUGW. This fits him so perfectly... I hope he realizes it soon. George is way too hard on himself. I hope he knows that all TGW love him!!! You always give all of us so much to think about, and have a gift for remembering how each one of us is doing every day. I look forward to your messages. My brain is fried, but I have confidence we'll come up with your role soon. You are a very important member of TGW!!! I'm so glad you decided to stick around, TU!!!

    As always sending you hugs, wishing you peace, all of us peace. DEB
     
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  3. DEB321

    DEB321 Well-Known Member

    Patti,

    Seeing you here, has me smiling big time, TU!!! Trust me, this isn't an easy thing to do!!! As always, you are in my prayers... I pray that your eyesight improves every day. TGW will be here for you on the 7th... I wish TGW could be together in person... I can't believe how much I value the friendships I've made here. Gary recently said that "TGW are the greatest energy field," or something very similar to this. I totally agree with him. I hate this foggy widow brain thing that I can't ditch, TU!!! All of us miss you so much...

    Please continue to take the very best care of yourself that you possibly can. I hope you're able to get some quality sleep tonight.

    Thank you so much for dropping by!!!

    As always sending you hugs, wishing you peace, all of us peace. DEB
     
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  4. DEB321

    DEB321 Well-Known Member

    Lou,

    I read your message to Gary, and want to respond. I think, even though you don't feel like you are, that you are truly the "Godfather" of TGW. It is because of you, that TGW are as close as we are now. You brought us together by referring to more than one GW in your messages, encouraging us to open up, "talk,"and get to know each other. I think you and George are the bravest and strongest out of all of us, TU!!! I love how Gary described George as TUGW (The Ultimate Grief Warrior.) Now we have to get creative and give Gary a title too. I'm way too toasted and fried to do anything that requires any sort of thinking and creativity, but I have confidence that you can do this!!!

    Stopping here for now. My chrome book was doing better for awhile, but is now in slo mo mode again. I will respond to the rest of my messages tomorrow, after I try rebooting this. Keeping my fingers crossed this works, TU!!!

    Sleep well...

    As always, sending you lots of hugs, wishing you peace, all of us peace. DEB
     
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  5. DEB321

    DEB321 Well-Known Member

    Lou,

    I can't seem to stop "talking" even though this chrome book is driving me up the wall, TU!!! Better keep this short. I'm so sorry that I make you cry so often... Now I'm teary eyed reading your message... I haven't heard the theme song of "Alfie" in a long time, but I think the next time I do, I better have a tissue handy. Grieving just SUCKS!!!, TU!!!

    I make sure my tissue supply is always well stocked. There's a paper shortage around here. Not as bad as it was last year, but I'm thinking maybe I should pick up another case of tissues soon...

    Sending even more extra hugs your way, wishing you peace, all of us peace. DEB
     
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  6. DEB321

    DEB321 Well-Known Member

    Karen,

    I'm having lots of trouble with my chrome book tonight, so this is a short one. It made me smile because I know how hard you're working to keep on moving forward. GRIEVING SUCKS,TU!!!, but just as you said, Jack would want you to keep moving forward or at least feel contented, just as all of our spouses, girlfriends, boyfriends, partners, etc., etc, etc., etc. would want the same for us. I believe that all of us will eventually feel contented, maybe even happy again, although I'm not sure what this new kind of happiness will look like. I have to believe this, without hope, there is no way to move forward. Tom Zuba mentions this in his book. You said it so perfectly, "We will and we can, together, move forward." WE ARE NOT ALONE!!! We are a team, we are TGW!!! This is such a comforting feeling...

    I want to thank you for the excellent advice you gave me. I am going to do what is best for me this holiday season, no matter what anyone else thinks. I'm not used to putting myself first, but I know I have to. If I don't, I'm so afraid of sinking way too deep, into that cold dark hole, and not being able to climb out of it. I know that the best way to make Bob proud of me, to make him happy, is for me to keep moving ahead. I refuse to let myself sink any deeper into that hole than I already am. So, this year, I'm putting myself first. I've already made the decision not to send Christmas cards. Like it is for Robin, it's just too painful for me. I can't imagine signing my name without Bob's name on the cards too.

    I hope you're able to sleep tonight...

    As always, sending you and Rambo hugs, wishing you peace, all of us peace. DEB
     
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  7. RLC

    RLC Well-Known Member

    Deb, a quick response. I love the story you shared. Such a special memory. I have a Christmas Tree Store i go in once in a while. It’s the same as they’ve always been. Still carry all the things you mention. I’m not sure about the dog bandanas though. Everything reasonably priced. I was in there just last week. Didn’t get anything fun. Afraid I only shop for necessities most the time now.
    I’m seeing the same as you mention about paper products and other things too. I’m seeing people with carts full of Kleenex, paper towels and tp. Hope it doesn’t become an issue again.
    I’m ending here, feeling tired and it’s getting late.
    ❤️ Robin
     
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  8. Patti 61

    Patti 61 Guest

    HI. DEB, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
    LOST SEVERAL POSTINGS IN TRYING
    TO REPLY TO YOUR MESSAGE HERE.
    HAD SAME THING HAPPEN WITH GARY
    EARLIER.DEB, I SHALL BE BACK TOPOST
    TO YOU TOMORROW , I LOVED MY OLD
    IPAD IT WAS USER FRIENDLY ,TILL IT
    GOT OUTDATED.
    IT HAS GOTTEN COLDER HERE.
    BIG HUG TO YOU. BLESSINGS, PATTI
     
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  9. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    B
    Deb, Hope you see this before you reboot.
    I don't know if the following has happened to or to
    anyone else , but 10 min after my
    head hit the pillow, I had a disturbing
    dream

    that I asked Linda a question. When she.didn't answer,I realized she was
    dead. Tears ran down my cheek. Thanks
    for listening. That guy who bothered you
    in the store, was way out of line, and an
    embarrassment to good men everywhere.
    I would never think of acting like that, to
    a widow, or any woman, for that matter!!Went back to keep after sucky
    dream & just woke up at 4am & was
    pleasantly surprised to see you here!
    I thought I'd see Stacey,bc she goes to
    bed 3 hours later than most of us. Karen
    usually says good night earlier than
    Stacey, Thank you for praising me &
    agreeing with Gary that I'm the
    "Godfather. of TGW, which I founded!
    It IS true that I like to bring people
    together here, and where I live. It was
    so good for me to see the smiling faces
    of Steven & Betsy when I introduced
    them to people I always write to Steven
    about, especially Ginny & Roger! I also
    encouraged you, and then many others
    here to say the names of their spouses
    to keep their spirits alive, I say Linda's
    name a lot, to Kim who never met her.
    I was extremely happy ( and proud of
    myself!!) when " Marcey" said her name
    is Stacey & her husband's name is
    Mark. Well, back to sleep. Hope Gary
    sees our talk, Deb! Sorry Karen, no
    funny typos tonight. My eyes must be
    getting better. I'll try to make you
    laugh this month----in different ways!
    Good night, Deb. You












    at my xlock
    I woke up with a start.
     
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  10. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

     
  11. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Deb, I spoke too soon about having no typos
    for Karen, when I saw my weird " at my
    xlock, I woke up with a start". One of
    Linda's many expressions, was that she
    "woke up with a start". As for "xlock",
    please remind Karen that I don't drink
    anymore!! Lou
     
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  12. RLC

    RLC Well-Known Member

    Deb,
    I figured I’m not the only one struggling with eating. Part of me misses cooking and baking. But then I try and I’m just not feeling it. When my daughter used to spend weekends with and come over one evening during the week I’d cook for both of us. I could do that without too much anxiety. But she has a puppy now that she’s training and she’s not here nearly as much.
    My tv stays off all day until the evening. I know it’s stupid but if Ron can’t watch I don’t want to. I guess tv was Ron’s thing and not as much mine. Ron’s home, tv is on. In a couple rooms, sometimes the same show sometimes different. I watched tv with him at work, but at home in the evening. For some reason I’m ok with that.
    I’m so very sorry you had to deal with that neighbor. How rude and inappropriate. It makes my skin crawl just reading it. You handled it well, and I’m guessing your walks go in a different direction now. That’s just not ok. I didn’t have that happen to me but I did have an uncomfortable conversation with someone who neither Ron or I really care for. He used to come in our shop and just talk our ears off. Non stop! And he’d stop in and ruin our coffee break or lunch break. I’ve known him for years and he got to know Ron because he wanted us to do work for him. He saw me mowing my yard and pulls over behind me. First off, he scared me, I was thankful it was someone I knew. He was interested in how I was doing. He was genuine. But then he starts in that I should find someone when I’m ready, I couldn’t imagine living alone, blah blah, blah. Then starts talking about someone we all know and we did business with. He lost his wife quite a few years back. He says I’m trying to encourage him to find someone. Then he starts selling this guy to me. WHAT!! Leave me alone get away from me. I tell him he should stop pushing people, he hasn’t been through this, so stop. He’s been talking to me way too long, like usual, 45 min have passed all I want to do is mow my lawn. I pull my cell phone out and tell him I’m meeting my daughter for lunch and she’s looking for me. He finally leaves after another 10 minutes. During the conversation I learn, he goes to the guys business every morning and rides past my home as he leaves every day. Feels like stalking to me. I never mow my front yard in the morning ever since that day over 2 years ago. This happened my first summer after Ron passed. So it was around 8 months after Ron passed. What is wrong with people.
    My daughter got her errands done, and we got chicken sandwiches at BK. Not terribly healthy but at least it was chicken. We had her puppy with us, trying so hard to socialize him. I have tried melatonin, it made me sleep too hard and I didn’t like the feeling. Everything I take works extra long and strong on me. I was told by a couple doctors it’s because I’m a red head. I don’t know.
    I’m hoping rebooting your chrome book or modem helps your troubles with your internet.
    ❤️ Robin
     
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  13. RLC

    RLC Well-Known Member

    Gary, The guilt is such an awful feeling. It’s so draining, as is grieving. I think we all deal with guilt of some kind after losing our spouse. I try not to go down that path, it’s not as often now as it had been but I’m there this week. I’m reliving 3 years ago as the anniversary approaches. We have to come to realize that we did everything we could and as best we could. Guilt is a horrible place to be. My daughter took that day off so we can support each other. If the weather permits I’ll send off a Chinese lantern to honor Ron.
    I can just picture the tractors you mention, the calm sound of them running in the fields. I’d enjoy that too.
    I’ve been on this site for 2 years. I’ve made great friends, gotten wonderful support and offered support daily. But never in those 2 years have I experienced such a wonderful group as the people here. This group is the best and it’s so wonderful to be a part of this special family that came together from all walks of life from different parts of the country. Gary, I love the titles you came up with for each of us. I’ll share that Ron had 3 names he called me, first was his Flower, second was Butterfly, and third was his Angel! He’d approve and I love it. We need to be creative and give you a title.
    I think I’m getting off here for a while and try to get my blood flowing and be productive. We’ll see. Doesn’t always happen like I think it will. I need to force myself to get some fresh air that I know.
    ❤️ Robin
     
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  14. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Robin,I felt so bad when you told that
    story of the creepy stalker. My immediate
    thought was that you get a license to
    carry a gun. You could always say that
    you're a widow, who lives alone, and
    needs protection. I know the gun laws
    are very strict in NYC, but maybe not
    where you live. There's an obnoxious,
    non stop talker in my town.,He's 65,
    divorced, with 2 adult daughters out of
    town. I suspect that deep down, he's a
    bitter, lonely man, living in the past. But,
    that doesn't give him the right to make
    sarcastic, hurtful remarks to others, like
    me. One day, I decided to stop talking to
    him. He finally got a clue & doesn't talk to
    me either. Sheer bliss! Lou
     
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  15. DEB321

    DEB321 Well-Known Member

    Robin,

    Sending extra hugs your way... Leaving the TV on isn't stupid, TU!!! All of us have different ways of coping with our grief. If it's even just a bit comforting to you to leave Ron's TV on, or makes you feel even just a bit closer to him, then go for it... I have trouble watching shows that Bob and I watched together too. Being as technically challenged as I am, every time I turn on the TV and go to the shows I recorded, at least one episode of two of Bob's favorite shows are there. I've tried, but can't figure out how to stop them from recording. I don't want to mess around with the TV too much because I'm afraid I'll hit something I shouldn't, and have to call either my son or my streaming service for help. My daughter is in a way different time zone and so is my son who lives out of the country. Backing up a bit, I always delete them immediately, but it's a constant reminder that Bob isn't here and it always makes me teary eyed.

    I don't think I'll ever feel like cooking or baking again either. I think the best we can do is try to eat healthy foods as much as possible. There is no escaping the loneliness of eating by ourselves, it just SUCKS!!! I'm glad to hear the Christmas Tree Shop is the same as I remember it, I don't know why, but I find it sort of comforting, maybe because I have so many memories from all those shopping trips with Bob, now so bittersweet... I don't think I'll ever be able to go to another Christmas Tree Store. I have a hard enough time going to Wal-Mart, Sam's Club, and the grocery store, wait I take this back, every shopping trip, no matter where I go, is always challenging. I'm slowly getting used to shopping alone, so there are lots of days I can make it through a shopping trip without crying, but most times there is usually something that will trigger a memory, and leave me just a bit teary eyed.

    Robin, reading about that creepy guy that seems to be stalking you has shivers running down my spine. I don't think I would be able to mow the front yard in the mornings either after that last horrible encounter you had with that creep. It makes me so angry that you don't always feel safe in your front yard, TU!!! I better get off of my soapbox before I even begin to get going... Do you have motion detectors that switch on outside lights if someone gets too close to your house at night, an alarm system or cameras outside? About a month ago, friends had their garage door kicked in, then someone kicked their front door so hard, it left marks. As soon as they heard noises outside and saw their outside lights go on, they put all of their inside lights on and called the police. Whoever was there took off and hasn't been caught. After this happened, they installed outside cameras. It's so sad that we live in a world filled where we don't always feel safe no matter where we are, even at home. Wait... I was supposed to stop "talking" about this. Although I have lots more to say, stopping here for now.

    Backing way up, I'm glad your daughter got her errands done, and that you had something to eat. A BK chicken sandwich is lots better than not eating anything. At least you got some protein in. I hope Slinky's doing well and enjoys car rides, meeting new people, other animals, and getting used to all different kinds of loud noises. We used to take our puppies as many places as possible too. I think it's so important to begin the socialization process as soon as possible.

    I tried rebooting my chrome book, but still having issues. I don't know how to reboot anything else. I might have to see if I can find a neighbor who is a bit less technically challenged than I am.

    I hope you're doing okay today, have at least a few reasons, if not more, to LMSO.

    As always, sending you and Teddy hugs, wishing you peace, all of us peace. DEB
     
  16. RLC

    RLC Well-Known Member

    Thank you Lou, it was awful. And when we would see him pull into our parking lot, we’d say the talker is here! Both my brothers have licenses to carry guns. I could ask them. I believe it’s different on Long Island then NYC. My daughter Stacey and I have considered pellet guns. Some protection if needed but not lethal. I do enjoy your story on how you stopped talking to your town talker. And he got the message. I agree, that is sheer bliss. Robin
     
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  17. Gary166

    Gary166 Guest

    Robin that is so cool that you’ve been on this site for two years and right now it’s really flourishing more than ever. I am so glad to be part of this movement Especially since it’s my greatest resource against Mr. grief. When you told how Ron called out to you I love you Robin sends me goosebumps. What a love story. It made me think about Cheryl regaining a heartbeat 73 minutes after she stopped breathing right after I said my first goodbye to her. Love is the greatest gift we can give and receive. I will never underestimate the power of love. I get my haircut in a salon where there are about eight cute little Chickies all tattooed up with colored hair and happy smiling faces. I cringe when I’m asked what plans do you have for the weekend ? I like hearing all their stories about the events and family times they have together and all the fun things they do. yesterday I asked the stylus if she would cut my hair how she would cut it if it belonged to her. It turned out pretty good. It was like Pee-wee‘s big adventure. Lou I got a delayed LMSO last night after reading the typo foctors (f-bomb doctors). I didn’t figure it out until I went to bed and then it hit me. Hank Williams Senior had a song a picture from life’s other side. I think after we go through so much pain and suffering we realize what life is really about. Patti good to see your thread. My nephew went to Tri State also. Was Jack an engineer? Deb as always thank you for your kind words and encouragement. I really appreciate you. I have been compelled to say something but I’ve held back. but I just have to ask you would you consider going non-solo for a couple months to see if that would help you feel better? Please forgive me if this offends you. I would never want to do that. but I care about you is the reason I’m asking. Last night was the first night in 18 months I didn’t use sleep medicine. My sleep wasn’t as good but it was doable. I want to try and get off of this stuff if I can. To each their own it’s all about survival. I’ll catch up with everybody later. Gary
     
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  18. DEB321

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  19. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Robin, just saw Peter now, in my
    breakfast place, Two Little Birds Eatery.
    He was blabbing to the owner, a woman
    in her 40s. with a boyfriend. One day
    when I was alone with the owner. I told
    her about Linda & that I was a widower.
    I also said that Peter was definitely NOT
    a friend, & if he tried to talk with me,
    I wouldn't engage.,I always bring my
    phone for a different type of protection.
    If Peter, or another talker, is nearby, I text,
    email, or look at headlines on my NY
    Post app ( that's how I hear about your
    part of the world!). I even told the owner
    about how much GIC means to me. Lou
     
  20. RLC

    RLC Well-Known Member

    Hi Deb, maybe I had a typo, but I keep my tv off all day. Because that was Ron’s thing. And I feel if he’s not here to watch then I shouldn’t. Just how my mind thinks right now. I have an echo and I have that play music until it plays too many of Rons favorite songs.
    Right after Ron passed I told my kids I don’t feel safe here without Ron. If Teddy would bark Ron would jump up and check if anyone was out there. I can’t do that. Stacey bought me cameras and put them up for me. I do have flood lights that come on with movement. I don’t think this guy would harm me, but I don’t want to talk to him either. He’s too much. And he admits he drives by every day! No, not ok.
    I try to eat healthy but it’s hard when I’m not cooking. I make salads all the time and have hard boiled eggs. I’ve lost a lot of weight since Ron passed. I tell my daughter that Ron wouldn’t recognize me and I’ve aged from stress. She says Dad would recognize you. She’s right. Lol!
    Sorry that rebooting your chrome book didn’t help any. Next I would try rebooting your modem. I know you’re anxious about that. It’s the piece with lights blinking on it. To reboot you unplug for a moment. Count to 10 then replug. It takes a little while to get up and running again. Not like hours, 5-10 minutes. Something like that. Do t do it if it makes you anxious. I’ve learned about it some since Ron passed. It is scary but I. The end it’s not that bad we just feel anxious about everything. And the internet is our life line.
    Your friends who had their garage door kicked and their front door show someone kicked that too, that’s scary stuff right there. I’m glad they got cameras and lights.
    Good luck if you try, but don’t if your nervous.
    ❤️ Robin
     
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