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Loss after three decade relationship.

Discussion in 'Loss of Spouse' started by oneman, Aug 6, 2021.

  1. oneman

    oneman Well-Known Member

    The adjustment to a new way of life is hard. When things changed two months ago, it was difficult. I woke up each morning expecting her to be there. When I sat down at the table, I expected her to be in that chair.
    She wasn't.
    When I walk out into the living room now, I see a picture and an urn. It is hard to understand this. This is the adjustment that is hard, for me.

    As much as I am working on moving forward in my life, there is the adjustment.
    Yes, I miss Mary. I always will. After 30 years how can I not miss her?
    Working on moving forward is what will happen. Mary will always be there in my memories and my heart. This is the adjustment for me.
     
  2. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Deb, I admire you for donating your
    husband's food to the church. As I told
    Mary, I cried the first few times I went to
    the supermarket, & would rush down
    aisles where Linda's items were, and try
    not to look at them. It wasn't until a kind
    a kind woman went with me, that the
    crying finally stopped. She drives me
    weekly to the supermarket, bc I choose
    not to have a car. Linda never knew her,
    but she was kind to me when Linda was
    in the rehabilitation center. She's been
    like a daughter to me ( Linda & I never
    had children). Maybe you could have
    someone accompany you to the market,
    to ease the pain. Lou
     
  3. DEB321

    DEB321 Well-Known Member

    Lou,

    I'm so glad that you have a friend who takes you to the grocery store. I appreciate the advice. I'm not sure if it'll help me, but it's worth a try. Thank you so much for sharing.

    Sending you hugs, wishing you peace, all of us peace.
     
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  4. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Deb, my grief counselor said I've become
    a people person. The people in my small
    town know I'm a widower. Whenever
    I meet another couple, from out of state,
    I will ask where they're from, bc most
    people like to talk about themselves.
    If the couple seems kind, I sometimes
    tell them that Linda & I wanted to retire
    by the sea. Then, Linda became ill and
    then, died swiftly. Speaking with old
    acquaintances & friends, puts me in a good mood. Lou
     
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  5. DEB321

    DEB321 Well-Known Member

    Lou,

    It is always nice to hear from you and read your uplifting replies. Even though I'm still getting to "know" you, I'm always still amazed by how far you've come in your grief journey. I like how you keep Linda's memory alive by talking about her often. I know Linda would be so proud of all you've accomplished, so happy you've created a "new life" for yourself, and not only have found your "place" in the world again, but have brought her with you, by sharing so many memories with friends and acquaintances.

    The ocean was my husband's, and still is, my very favorite place on earth. Like you, I never get tired of being near the ocean. It is so peaceful..., so calming..., so beautiful... So many special memories are from days my husband and I shared while at the beach..., walking along the shore..., swimming in the ocean..., sitting out over the rocks..., listening to all the sounds..., waves hitting the shore..., birds overhead..., watching the sunset... These memories bring back some of the very best times, the happiest times, in my life.

    After our children were born, and we bought a boat, we used to take frequent trips to several islands that weren't too far from our home. We would drop anchor, and our children would jump overboard, happily playing in the water. Our "furry family member," our dog, used to put her front paws up on whatever side of the boat the children were near, watching them play. She didn't like to swim because of an incident that happened to her when she was just a puppy, but I'm positive, if she thought one of the children needing rescuing, she would have been overboard in a second!

    We spent some fourth of July celebrations on our boat. When it was time for the fireworks, we would find a place to drop anchor. We loved watching the explosions of color fill the night sky, while out in the middle of the ocean... Backing up a bit, we dressed for the occasion. All of us would wear red, white and blue. The children would "dress" our dog, putting a red, white, and blue bandana over her collar. I would make red, white, and blue cookies and cupcakes for the children, and bring a big plastic container filled with strawberries and blueberries. We had a small grill that we kept on the boat. My husband would grill hamburgers and hot dogs for lunch. My dog always got a hamburger (plain, no seasonings) and some fruit. She loved fruit as much as she loved a good burger. The years that we didn't spend the fourth of July on our boat, we were either at the ocean, or by a pool, celebrating with friends and family. Our boat wasn't big enough to take too many people with us.

    So many memories flooding my mind, but I need to stop here. As always, no matter how beautiful and special my memories are, they have me in tears... I miss my husband so very much..., with all my heart.

    Sending you hugs, wishing you peace, all of us peace. DEB
     
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  6. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Deb, as usual, your kind words about
    Linda made me cry. As I've said before,
    you write in such descriptive phrasesYou even injected some humor about your
    dog on your boat. When I was growing up,
    I was allergic to dogs, so we never had one.
    I seem to have outgrown the allergy, which
    has opened up a whole new world. If I
    tell a dog owner what a beautiful, or
    happy, dog he or she has, I always get a
    smile. I choose not to have one, bc I like to
    be outside all day, & visit with people and
    their dogs on the promenade. In fact, I was
    sitting with a much younger friend of
    mine. He has an "old soul", bc he was a
    sergeant in the Army in Afganistan, and
    had PTSD. I was never in the military, but
    had PTSD, when I saw Linda fall in front
    of me, right before she died. Fast forward
    over 2 & a half years. Two women & a dog
    walked by us, with friendly smiles. They
    had just moved here. It was a divorced
    mother & her 18 year old daughter, about
    to enter college. I felt an instant attraction
    to the mother, with her expressive eyes &
    warm smile. But, it is complicated, bc her
    focus is on her only child, & they are very
    close. She expressed an interest in
    "tagging along" with my young friend,
    when we have dinner at our favorite
    CHEERS-like bar, or to hear live music.
    I told my friend later that I WANT him to
    be with us right now. I don't want her to
    think of it as "a date". I didn't hide my age.
    She complimented me by saying I looked
    over 10 years younger. I don't want to be
    foolish about this. The fact is that I like
    the quiet of my apartment, & my freedom
    to come & go. She may be the same way.
    Her ex-husband is in another state. I told
    Karen, & now you, that I will keep you
    posted.
     
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  7. oneman

    oneman Well-Known Member

    It is one thing to deal with all the stuff a person has. Pictures, clothes, etc.
    It is another to deal with the emotions and memories.
    Sitting on the back porch,watching the deer in the field next door.
    Or playing a game of scrabble. ( I can only remember one time I beat Mary. Throughout the 30 years.)
    Yes, I can look at a blouse I helped her pick out. The blouse is just a blouse. The memory of the smile, or the look of disapproval at the fit or color; that is what I shed tears about.
    A phone bill is just a phone bill. But sitting across from her desk and discussing whether we should pay it that day or wait until the next payday, This is what I remember, and wonder about after the day she passed away.
    I prefer to think about how to try as hard as I could to win a game of scrabble. And still lose. The scrabble game was donated. The memories are still here with me.

    This the part of grief that is difficult.
     
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  8. cjpines

    cjpines Well-Known Member

    I'M EMOTIONAL READING THIS. YES, THIS IS THE PART THAT IS DIFFICULT. THANK YOU FOR SHARING.
     
  9. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Jim, Thank you for responding to my
    thoughts about donating items you no
    longer use.I want to commend you for
    donating the scrabble game. As far as the
    piercing memories of grief about Mary, I
    STILL have tears inducing pictures in my
    mind, about Linda. It IS the little things,
    the mundane things, that we took for
    granted, which are gut wrenching. When
    I shaved in the morning yesterday, I recalled that Linda helped me pick out my
    electric razor at a particular store, and
    cried for a moment. Another time, I heard
    a song on my phone that we both liked.
    I donated both the CD,on which the song
    was AND the CD player. Even though I
    don't have those items anymore, the
    memory lingered & I cried briefly. The
    key words here, Jim, after over 2 & a half
    years since Linda's death, are "cried for a
    moment" and "cried briefly". Right after
    Linda's unexpected death in front of me,
    I sobbed uncontrollably over ANY song.
    Mary just died. Your emotions are raw and
    painful. I'm so sorry, Jim.
    From one widower to another, Lou
     
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  10. DEB321

    DEB321 Well-Known Member

    Lou,

    I always like reading your replies. You lead such an interesting life! You give me hope, that someday, my life will be filled with more than (mostly) just memories and tears... Thank you so much for sharing!

    Even though I don't know enough about the situation to give you any sort of advice, here's my first reaction: Try not to overthink your friendship with this woman. Enjoy her company as you would enjoy the company of any other friend. Just go with the flow... In time, both your head and your heart will tell you what to do. As I said, I'm really not in any position to give you any advice on this matter. I hesitated whether or not I should voice my opinion, but decided to go for it, mostly because I remember you mentioning her in an earlier post. Keep us updated...

    Sending you hugs, wishing you peace, all of us peace. DEB
     
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  11. DEB321

    DEB321 Well-Known Member

    Jim,

    I can relate to this so much. Like Karen, my eyes are filling with tears reading this...

    Sending you lots of hugs, wishing you peace, all of us peace. DEB
     
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  12. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Perfect timing, Deb. Wise words, thank
    you. At last American Legion band for
    the summer. Sitting with young friend,
    ex Army, 34, who suffered PTSD. I listen to
    his sadness & anger about the horror in
    Afganistan, where he was. He listened
    to me about my PTSD over Linda's death.
    I texted L, our female friend. She came
    with her puppy Rottweiler, who's a
    handful. L. has trained dogs, & got her to
    relax. As we walked home, L turned to
    me & said that she really liked knowing
    me, & that I was a good person. I returned
    the compliment. Then, she said she was
    glad our young veteran friend stayed
    here, got a job, and looks happier. I joked
    with L. that some people thought N. was
    my son. I'm using their first initials as a
    way of keeping cool about L. & not to
    "overthink". Lou
     
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  13. DEB321

    DEB321 Well-Known Member

    Lou,

    Thank you for sharing. I smiled when I read this.
    Have a good rest of the night.

    As always, sending you hugs, wishing you peace, all of us peace. DEB
     
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  14. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Thank you, Deb. I imagine that we're
    talking on the phone, or writing letters
    the old fashioned way. I've been wondering how Connie is doing,
    ( Don Con), bc she spoke of her late
    husband, who was in the military. I'm
    taking your advice about L. , my young
    friend, N, and my grief counselor, who
    guides me through my interactions with
    people. I told N. that it was good to have
    him with L. & me, bc I have a tendency
    to babble. She hasn't spoken of her ex-
    husband, although her daughter referred
    to him as "Dad". I must say I'm glad he
    lives in a different state! Sweet dreams.
    Lou
     
  15. oneman

    oneman Well-Known Member

    You're welcome.
     
  16. oneman

    oneman Well-Known Member

    One of the things that is difficult with going through this grief is that those around me don't fully understand what it is like. My family is on the east coast. They call, or email, or text. It is a little hard to sit through a conversation when they try to give their perspective. None of my family has been through what I'm going through. Not even close in this kind of experience.
    And some things that are talked about in life kind pale in importance, or magnitude, compared to this grief. At least at this time.
    I love my family. I try to be patient with them. I understand that they don't know what it is like.

    Just kind of venting.

    On the other hand, there are people in this life who do understand, like in a forum like this one. I am thankful that there are those who are going through the grief that do understand. Thank you.
     
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  17. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Jim, your last paragraph was so moving &
    so true for me. I know that you, and some others on the forum, choose not to see a grief counselor. I had to, because I had
    PTSD. Linda was my best (& only) friend
    and family. After going voluntarily to the
    ER, with extreme bereavement, loneliness,
    survivor's guilt, and suicidal ideations, I
    started seeing a psychiatric nurse
    practioner. She was a warm, kind woman,
    who had suffered the horrible grief of
    her daughter, taking her own life. Rather
    than crawling into a hole of grief, she
    decided to channel that grief into helping
    others, like me. The first few months, all I could do was cry, and "vent", as you so
    eloquently put it. She let me do it, without
    interruption. Gradually, she was able to
    recommend articles, books, videos, poems,
    and songs. She suggested Grief in Common. I didn't act upon it at the time,
    but recently, after over 2 & a half years
    since Linda's death, I found that talking
    with friends wasn't good enough. I'm so
    grateful to have joined this group, with
    others, like you, who "understand". Thank
    you. Lou
     
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  18. DEB321

    DEB321 Well-Known Member

    Lou,

    I agree, "talking" to you is (almost) like being on the phone, or using "snail mail."

    I've been thinking about Connie too. I think she's moving this month. I hope all the packing, things that need to be done prior to moving, are going smoothly. I'm so happy for her! I think the move will be a positive step forward, the beginning of her being able to move forward, "grow around her grief."

    Hope you're enjoying another beautiful, sunny day by the water...

    As always, sending you hugs, wishing you peace, all of us peace. DEB
     
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  19. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Hope Connie is OK. I choose not to have
    a TV, so I don't hear loud voices on the
    "news", telling us how to think. I just
    scan the headlines. My friend, N, is
    sad & angry about the needless deaths
    of 13 very young Marines, bc he was
    over in Afganistan. I never complain
    about the summer here, bc it's such a
    short season. We had a lot of rain, in
    the beginning ( I like it overnight!). Then,
    we had a couple of " feels like 90 degrees"
    days, but the sea breeze saves us. I've met
    some friendly tourists from the South &
    Midwest. They ask about my life here,
    & I ask about their towns. Businesses,
    like my local watering hole, are coming
    back
     
  20. Van Gogh

    Van Gogh Well-Known Member

    Deb, I'll contradict what I just told you.
    The humidity DID get to me, so I went
    home to lay on my bed. I closed my eyes
    for a few minutes, & jolted awake, bc I
    saw her so vividly. Tears rolled down my
    cheeks, and I did something I haven't
    done for a while. I cried out to her,
    saying, "I love you, Linda. I miss you.
    Even if I meet someone else, you will
    always be first". I received a text from a
    a friend from Florida. He & girlfriend
    come here for the summer. He is
    well meaning, & wants me to get on a
    dating site, but I don't want to. He wants
    to meet me at our "CHEERS" bar at 5pm
    We make each other laugh. After my
    crying, I need that. I'll tell him about
    L., her dog, and my friend, Nate, at band
    concert last night. I'll keep you up to
    date, Deb. Thank you for caring about
    me. Linda would've liked you. Lou

     
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